Paying 60% Above Comps For Superior Eye Appeal?
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<p>Jake <a href="https://studio.youtube.com/channel/UC6G1-nJMMwR763hFb2_IJgg"> @WaxPackWisdom </a> and Matt From Providence are back for another exclusive episode of The Hit List on Sports Card Clubhouse Extra Innings.</p>
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Welcome to extra innings on the sports card clubhouse with the hit list. That is Matt from Providence, the people's dealer, the number one dealer in New England, Jake T. O'. Donnell. Don't forget the tea. Don't forget the tea. All right, we are back on the sports card clubhouse. We did not record a show either show last week. Is it something, something wrong with these box? Cold is two weeks old. The last time we recorded one of these things. Oh, my gosh, it's cold. Put on a new pot. Matt drinks. It doesn't matter what hour of the day it is. Matt is drinking coffee. That's, that's, that's what I've learned about Matt from Providence. He is drinking coffee no matter what the hour of the day is.
It's a strange thing because I need the coffee to stay awake, but I can fall asleep any moment. That's amazing. It's a strange thing, but Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh I love coffee. Yu-Gi-Oh I don't know. I'm old school. Old school. Like I say, like, I'll drink five, six cups of coffee a day, right? And people, people will give me a crooked Yu-Gi-Oh People used to drink pots of coffee in the 80s and 90s. It was no big deal. I mean, people forget. Yu-Gi-Oh people forget, you know. Yu-Gi-Oh But, Yu-Gi-Oh I remember my uncle. Oh, you drink a pot of coffee and a. Two packs of cigarettes at work tonight. And I mean, like, no good. I mean, back to the heart attack at 40. But, you know, I remember, you know, it was a thing.
It's, it's, it's. Times have changed, but they also, in a lot of ways, we, we still do things that are maybe not. Not as good for ourselves, but you know, it. But it's, it's just, it's different stuff, I guess. So let's, let's segue from that into talking about. I talk about when we just talk. People like when we just talk. People do like when we just talk. Let's talk about Yu-Gi-Oh appeal. Let's talk about that. So I had love, baby. Let's talk about you. Enough singing. That's enough singing for today. Leave the singing on this channel, David. To David Chase.
Oh, God. By the way, once again, can we go 15 minutes without mentoring D.C. please? I mean, thanks. Once again, a thank you to David Chase for our. No. Yu-Gi-Oh Great guys. Great guy. Intro song, which you will hear at the end of this video. Guys, a talent. Not. I don't mean on YouTube. I mean he's talented. Like doing digital things. Over the weekend. I was watching a card on eBay a slinging Sammy Baugh 1940. Oh Yu-Gi-Oh you messaged me about that. Yu-Gi-Oh And it was on ebay. It was a gorgeous too. The nicest SGC2 that you'll ever see. Perfectly centered, just had a little bit of surface wear, a little bit of issues on the back. I'm trying to get leaf. The leaf football run for hall of famers, as many as I can get. Some of them are really tough and I'm probably not going to get them. But Sammy bought tends to be one of the more expensive ones because he was a quarterback and usually yes. One of the SGC SGC 2 is generally even recent sales tend to go in the 250 to 260 range. And I thought to myself this one's going to go for more than that because the I appeal is so high. Well I thought I put in a bid for like three. I put in a bid for 310. I figured.
So you were willing to overpay for sure for the Yu-Gi-Oh for the I appeal. Yes. And you thought where is the car? Hold on, I just want to set the stage. Right. So what is the car generally comp. SGC 2, like 250. 260. 260. And you were willing to pay 20 over comp? Yes. Said you put in 310. 310. Yes. Okay, so you're going to pay 20 over comp. Yu-Gi-Oh ebay mentioned it was an ebay auction. Ebay auction. And Yu-Gi-Oh I put in my max bid of three. Everybody knows 310. I got smoked. I got. No kidding.
Skid marks on my back, tire marks on my back. Went for 413 is what this card went for. 4 13. And that's, that's 60 over. Yu-Gi-Oh So 60 over comp. There's two, there's two lessons here that I, that I got three. Number one is that right now if you want to buy a nice looking vintage card, not unlike that E253 Eddie Collins, you're going to have talking just you're talking. You are going to have to pay 50, maybe 50 to 60% over comps for, for any card that you want right now. So that, that then that, that's number one. My, my first take, the second take is about the. I know people are sick of the, the NBA topic and I don't want to get into. I really do not want to talk about.
I want to make sure like don't like I want to touch on what you were just talking about. Like if you go too far with these long questions, it becomes Miller time. And I forget what the first thing you said. Okay, but what I'm saying is, is that I think that there is, there's this like push and pull of like. I think like the, the purpose in the, the best purpose of an Yu-Gi-Oh appeal sticker is to help a, an audience that maybe doesn't quite understand as much about vintage understand the importance of Yu-Gi-Oh appeal versus the number on the, on the, on the, the grade. The number on the card.
Yes. But also we're seeing these cards and I, I should point this out that the, that the semi bought SGC2 that was gorgeous did not have any kind of a sticker on it. No NBA sticker, no pwcc, nothing. It was. No, no, it was no MFP sticker. There was, it was, there was nothing there. So I think that there, I guess it goes back to that. Like I, I think there are certain audiences that the Yu-Gi-Oh appeals sticker. The Yu-Gi-Oh appeal designations will be helpful and will mean something. But I don't know if that's right now because I think that people that are buying cards understand that. But I think for younger generation, future generation that's used to tens, nines, I understand the importance of. Let's, let's have another party look at this card and just understand that If a card's A1, it doesn't mean that it's junk. And I think that we, we need to get to that point where that stuff is out there and available for people to understand that. I think this like Maddie C. I Appeal Inc. Thing is, is a good step in that direction. But, but right now it feels like it's overkill. So I'm just. So that's, that's my thought. My question to you is, do you think that the, do you think that there is outside of the sort of money making operation of one company that's doing these stickers? Do you see the, the, the good, the good part of it? Like what, how it could be useful to, to collectors, especially ones that are getting into vintage for the first time, is what useful NBA stickers?
No, just like, I just like a, an outside opinion on the I appeal of the card that is sort of designated. Like part of that is like on the card. Like, I don't know. Is it? I don't know. But I can appreciate that people, collectors, not Ashers want are comfortable with paying up for I appeal card that they're going to collect. I really appreciate that now. Like, it's a real, like, I get it. Like I really get it because I mean, I'm willing to do that too. And those people that are buying those cars are really collecting that card and I really appreciate that. I mean, I wish they could get the card cheaper, right? We always get card cheaper. But it's just a big part of it is the hobby has been changing since COVID You know, we got a lot more and we're, we're one of them, we're two of them. More nerds into the hobby. More people came in and a lot more nerd. Everybody that's in is a nerd. If you really love to collect baseball cards, you're a nerd.
Where's a badge of honor? The flippers. They're different people, but they really collect these vintage cards. You're a nerd and it's great. But you get these people, that very intelligent people and computer people and they, you know, we forget a lot of pop counts and scarcity over the last five, six years. And the I appeal, the I appeal thing is real, you know, and they want good looking cars, people want good looking cards and that's cool and I appreciate that. Do we need that sticker? Obviously not. Is it helpful sometimes? Yes. It can hurt sometimes when you're trying to buy a car because people will price it way too high. But I generally like the stickers and we, I was watching a video with Jeremy Lee this past weekend and he was saying, you know how he likes the silver more than anything else was last week maybe. And I'm with them because the, the silver just says this card looks great. This card, this is an Yu-Gi-Oh appeal sticker where the gold sticker is more of a rating sticker, not an Yu-Gi-Oh appeal sticker.
Right? Yu-Gi-Oh So, you know, it's. I'm not sure that it has to. That a PSA4 with a silver sticker isn't. Doesn't I. I'm not sure that, that a PSA4 with a gold sticker is always going to be more Yu-Gi-Oh appeal positive than a PSA for the silver sticker. That makes sense because it's not necessarily just Yu-Gi-Oh appeal, it's also grade based. So on the silver he's saying the grade's fine, but boy is this thing good looking for its great. He's saying with the, with this, with the gold, as I understand it, he's saying, no, this four is a four and a half.
Right. But again, that doesn't mean we know plenty of threes that look better than fours and fours look better than fives. Threes that look good as fives. So I really do love that silver sticker. Maybe the gold has an Yu-Gi-Oh appeal base to it too. It did, but now you're going to overpay so much. So I don't even know because I'm uneducated on the I appeal factor with the gold. I just want to say, all right, you're going to pay more where you can just get a silver sticker that's telling you it's gorgeous. So I mean, I'm going to search out for those silver stickers for my collection.
Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Those could be undervalued in at least right now it feels like they are. Yu-Gi-Oh I, I, I get what you're saying. I just think that like, I, I go back a lot to, we need future generations to want to buy our cards eventually at some point. The guys who are the guys who, the guys who are, who are flipping a modern right now, hopefully they stay in the hobby, they get older. They want to learn more about the guys from the past and that they will eventually, eventually. Every card that you own, that I own, that everybody owns, will be sold eventually at some point. That is just a fact.
All grades go unvisited. So I just think that whatever. And the further distance that we get from these cards being pulled out of a, out of a package, I think that the nuance about the condition of the cards is going to get lost as the generations go on. So if we have an agreed upon way to like and I, I trust my own Yu-Gi-Oh more than I trust a greater's Yu-Gi-Oh To be honest with you, at this point, like, I, like I, I don't, you know, I, and we were talking about this at the, at the card show that we got a time capsule.
When you used to make a time capsule, you might put a cassette in there and then when you made a time capsule, you put a VHS in there. Now then they did CDs and now we know other things. Right. So now we're putting that baseball card in different things and adding plastic to it and stickers to it to, to show you this is better when we do it. Yu-Gi-Oh I, I, you, I was making a point and you interrupted me. I lost my train of thought. So thanks. But, but, well, you like, you like that? This will explain Yu-Gi-Oh appeal to the later generations.
Yu-Gi-Oh I just think that, I just think that we need, what I was saying is, is like I, I feel like at this point. Oh no, what we were, this is what I would say. We were at a show on Monday. We were recording this Tuesday. We're at a show, Labor Day yesterday and we were talking more about like how I just, I want, I want to buy the card. Like, I don't want to buy. Like I want to spend whatever I feel is appropriate to spend for the card in whatever the condition it's in. Like, I don't, I'm not gonna buy, I don't want to buy a slab. I don't want.
I think we gotta go PTI format. We got to do more rapid fire stuff here. The slow stuff is not our best stuff. What is slow? I talked for like 30 seconds. I would. It's just not, it's just not our best stuff. That's all I'm saying. We just did an episode of the Hit List. It was fantastic. Check it out. But you know, just, you know, not great. Not great. So the stickers. The stickers, you like the stickers and then I like the concept and you like the concept of the stickers. But then you, then you said, and that's why I just want to buy the card. Like I'm just.
But it's not for me is my point. Like, I think it's not for you. No, but I understand the concept of it for other people. For people that we want to eventually buy our card someday. Like, I understand it from that because again, the further distance that we get from these cards getting pulled from packs, the less understanding about them we're going to, are going to have. Concern yourself. Okay, but you're concerned yourself with a couple generations from now and how they're going to interpret these slabs and what they mean and what's going on. Who knows what these cards are going to get put in next before the next generation is a thing like, so don't concern yourself with that, buddy. Don't concern yourself with that at all. It's whether or not we like it now that's really all that matters with these stickers. And, and, and it's like, yes, it's like what you were talking about with the cassette tape. Whatever. It went from the pack to the shoebox to the screw down to the top loader to the, to the slab.
Now no softy. Top loader. The, the, the, the mag. It just gets crazy. It's just crazy. And what is the. That's an interesting question. Don't tell me what I don't ask me. Who knows? We go and start our own company. We're not going to say it now. Who knows? But Yu-Gi-Oh I don't know. I don't know. Who knows? Who knows? But it'll be different. It'll be more plastic. It'll. I don't know. It'll be just. There's plastic inside of plastic now, so I don't know exactly. All right, well, I'm sorry. This wasn't.
This was. I'm sorry. This was such a distance. I hardly spoke. I tried to jump in there with some things and it wasn't no good. No good. The guy who. The guy who Conor constantly interrupts me is. Is mad that he didn't get enough chance to talk. But one-of-one All right, that makes. That checks out. Checks out. I need to talk more so I interrupted check it out. Thank you very much for another episode of the Hit List on Sports Card Clubhouse. Maybe we'll get back invited again. I don't know what are we and and you're going to get to hear the out the hit list outro here. But what do we say?
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